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Monday, December 03, 2007

Genghis.


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Victor Suvorov is mistaken about Genghis Khan? To catch the Soviet defector and prolific writer [really prolific AND controversial!!!] on all things military - - Suvorov - - in an error - - is an accomplishment?

From Victor - - "Inside The Soviet Army":

"During a battle Jenghiz Khan would keep a close watch on the situation from a nearby hill. As soon as the slightest sign of success was visible at any point, he would concentrate all his forces there, sometimes even throwing in his own personal guard. having broken through the enemy's line at a single point he would push irresistibly ahead and the enemy's army, split in two, would disintegrate. it is worth recording that he never lost a battle in his [Jenghiz] life."

NOT So!! Twice Genghis was defeated.

[thanks here to Trevor Dupuy.]

"The first of Genghis Khan's two defeats took place in 1203, when he was still known as Temuchin, chief of the Borjigen, one of the several Mongolian tribes. This was at the hands of the Kerait Mongols under Toghrul Khan"

"[in 1213 - - the second defeat], Genghis Khan learned about a palace coup within the Chin capital. The eunuch general Hu Sha-hu had rebelled against Emperor Wei-wang, killed him, seized power, and installed another Chin prince on the throne. Learning about these events, Genghis Khan marched on the Chin capital in expectation of taking the city easily. Approaching Peking, while crossing a river, his army was ambushed and defeated by a larger Chinese army under General Hu Sha-hu."

Even an expert, such as Victor [Vladimir Rezun], can be wrong??

Sure!!

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Saturday, November 10, 2007

Genghis II. [Conclusion]

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And here is the full dope on the search for the grave site of Genghis Khan.

Digger's May Have Found Genghis Khan's Tomb .

"'We plan to explore this site further with additional experts from the US and Mongolia,' said history professor John Woods of the University of Chicago, who directed the summertime expedition organised by former Chicago commodities trader and lawyer Maury Kravitz, an amateur explorer who has studied Khan for 40 years."

"Legend has it that Khan, whose conquests created an empire spanning two-thirds of the 'civilised' world from the Caspian Sea to present-day Hong Kong, was buried in 1227 by 2,000 servants who were slaughtered by 800 soldiers, who in turn were killed upon their return to the capital to preserve the secrecy of his resting place."

[witnesses were killed by the bodyguard, who in turn were "killed"! I had said previously the bodyguard committed suicide! Whatever way, all persons knowing of the exact location of the grave site were done away with!]

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Genghis I.

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From a comment to the blog:

"Biologists would like to find the grave of Genghiz, to get samples of any DNA, as he or his brothers, have been determined to be the founders of a lineage with over one million living descendants."

16 million descendants it is believed!! This has to be verified. Such is what can be done with DNA analysis.

Here is the full dope:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descent_from_Genghis_Khan

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/02/0214_030214_genghis.html

“The greatest happiness is to scatter your enemy, to drive him before you, to see his cities reduced to ashes, to see those who love him shrouded in tears, and to gather into your bosom his wives and daughters.” - - G. Khan.

“The greatest happiness is to vanquish your enemies, to chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth, to see those dear to them bathed in tears, to clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters.” - - G. Khan.

Genghis - - practiced - - what he preached!!??

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