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Thursday, September 13, 2007

Tomahawk II.

This is coolbert:

The use of “hatchets” [tomahawks] in combat DID become an item of controversy during the Vietnam War era. Congressional hearings [1970] investigating atrocities allegedly committed by U.S. troops in Vietnam included SWORN testimony suggesting that a company of the 101st Airborne Division carried hatchets specifically to MUTILATE the dead bodies of the enemy. Perhaps this person testifying also read the same article in the Stars and Stripes newspaper as I did?

"And there was a company commander before that time, in 1965 before December — there had been some mutilations of bodies and I think it was south of Ben Hoa or Ben Cat when they were pulling some assistance with the 173rd, they mutilated bodies."

"And the company commander had given an order that everybody was to carry hatchets to mutilate the bodies. The company then became known as Hatchet Company."

"This was found out by General Westmoreland, and General Westmoreland stopped it but not — after it had occurred, the action was completed."

"Floor. Could you please go over that again? You carried hatchets—"

"Meyrowitz. I did not myself, not myself. In 1965 before I got in the unit, as related to me by men in the unit, C Company was known as Hatchet Company. They did carry hatchets. The company commander sanctioned it, and it was only stopped by General Westmoreland himself."

These testimonies were part of the Vietnam Era “Winter Soldier” campaign. Disaffected, disgruntled, and sometimes hate-filled Vietnam veterans [turns out some of them WERE NOT Vietnam veterans] who sought to publicize American atrocities allegedly committed during the Vietnam War.

[“Winter Soldier” refers originally to those men in the American Revolutionary Army serving at Valley Forge under General Washington. Men who were willing to sacrifice all in a selfless manner, heedless of the consequence, going even bootless and barefoot in the winter, bloody stains marking the snow where they marched!!]

With regard to the Congressional testimony:

"It also omits commentary at the hearing by Noam Chomsky, Jeremy Rifkin"

Those two names in particular stand out.

Noam Chomsky. "twin evils of the universe, the United States of America and Israel . . . Perfect for a man who doesn't like FACTS getting in his way. This way he can make up his own rules as he goes along . . . He is extremely clever in getting people to believe pure intellectual manure, of which he is the king of the hill."

Jeremy Rifkin. With Jeremy Rifkin, the situation is more complicated. Jeremy actually graduated from the same high school as I did. He was a senior when I was a freshman. He was valedictorian of his class and went on to graduate with honors from the Wharton School of Business [MBA??]. Obviously a person of considerable intellect. Has a reputation in some circles as a gadfly and scaremonger? WAS a prime organizer of the Winter Soldier testimony!

"The groundwork for what would become the Winter Soldier Investigation was laid by Jeremy Rifkin, Tod Ensign, Michael Uhl and Bob Johnson of the Citizens Commission of Inquiry (CCI)."

Chomsky and Rifkin are persons of international repute. Undeniably so, whether you agree with them or not! Elites such as Chavez of Venezuela and Prodi of the EU DO listen to them!!



Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone tell me why hacking someone up with a hatchet is different that sticking them in the guts with a bayonet, smashing their face to a pulp with a rifle butt or caving their head in with a cartridge box full of rocks? Which all by the way were done by a relative in Korea order to kill PRC soldiers in what was probably some of the most desperate fighting the US troops has ever been in. Thankfully, soldiers today can reach for a weapon that is effective and easier to use than a metal box full of rocks.
Just look who is involved in the debate, it speaks volumes: Chomsky, Kerry, Rifkin, etc...These "Americans" are anything but.
As for the hatchet, its use is alive and well in Iraq, at least with some of the people I have seen. It looks mean and that is why people don't like it, they are intimidated and a bit scared by it. Which, in my opinion, is what you want. God forbid the military can carry anything that can be used to kill people, it might make someone upset!

1:02 PM

Blogger Albert said...

Bert says:

"Someone tell me why hacking someone up with a hatchet is different that sticking them in the guts with a bayonet"

Absolutely no difference at all. The tomahawk is a valid and deadly weapon of war. Edged weapons I guess to a modern suggest "barbaric" forms of warfare. We all think of death on the battlefield as wanting to be instantaneous and antiseptic. "He got a bullet right between the eyes, dead right away, no real damage, it is like he is sleeping!!"

"It looks mean and that is why people don't like it, they are intimidated and a bit scared by it."

AND is a particularly unique weapon as wielded by Americans? Has an image that is useful. Hatchet units would have an certain esprit'?


2:16 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

All this talk about hatchets and bayonets reminded me of an interesting site here:

I don't know who this guy is, but he is thinking outside of the box quite a bit. The whole site is worth a perusal in my humble opinion.

2:58 PM


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