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Tuesday, October 23, 2007

Fabius III.

This is coolbert:

Bert again responds to Fabius:

c. "In which military history book did you find an example of a people packing-up and vacating its country to a much weaker, even powerless, enemy?" - - [Fabius]

You might not find an example in a military history book, but you might very well be finding an example in the newspapers, right now, as we speak. - - [Bert]

I would point to what is occuring right now, in the American Southwest. [with special regard to the state of California!]

A demographic change of mind-boggling proportions that might, in the maybe no-so-far-off-future, might actually have serious consequences for the physical integrity of the contiguous forty eight states that comprise the UNITED STATES!

The hitherto dominant [dominant in every sense of the word dominant] racial, ethnic, and cultural group [white English-speaking Americans] is vacating the state [California] in a manner that NO ONE would have forseen. Moving to states such as Idaho, Utah, Nevada in ever increasing numbers. Primarily a response in large part to an intolerable atmosphere created by illegal aliens.

"in the last years of the twentieth century, the state actually lost population. 'More than 1.4 million people in the U.S. migrated to California from 1995 to 2000, while 2.2 million left' . . . an exodus that one demographer labels 'unprecedented.'"


THERE ARE revanchists among the Mexican political elite, the illegal alien crowd, AND even among the native-born Mexican-American population living in the U.S., that see this demongraphic change as an opportunity for Mexico and the Mexican population to "REGAIN" lost territories [from the war of 1848]. Regain lost territories WITHOUT A SHOT EVEN BEING FIRED, YOUR ADVERSARY LACKING THE WILLPOWER TO RESIST!!!!

"You cannot give me a similar example of such a large migratory wave by an ant-like multitude, stubborn, unarmed, and carried on in the face of the most powerful and best-armed nation on earth . . . it [the American Southwest] seems to be slowly returning to the jurisdiction of Mexico without the firing of a single shot, nor requiring the least diplomatic action, by means of a steady, spontaneous, and uninterrupted occupation" - - Mexican columnist Carlos Loret de Mola [1982]!!

"re·vanche - - n.

The act of retaliating; revenge. A usually political policy, as of a nation or an ethnic group, intended to regain lost territory or standing. "

You also find an abandonment of settlement and occupation also occurring in the area commonly referred to as the Great Plains of North America!

When the "American West" was finally declared "settled" in 1890, the population density was about six persons per square mile. Due to a variety of factors [primarily economic], the "Great Plains" now has a population density LESS than it did in 1890 and continues to decline. A withering away of the dominant group [white Americans] slowly being replaced by others [??].

"The rural Plains have lost a third of their population since 1920. Several hundred thousand square miles of the Great Plains have fewer than six persons per square mile—the density standard Frederick Jackson Turner used to declare the American frontier 'closed' in 1893. Many have fewer than two persons per square mile. There are more than 6,000 ghost towns in the State of Kansas alone"

[there was book printed in the early 1970's entitled, as I recall, "The Last Days of the Late Great White Man". A book written for and directed at in specific the Lakota [Sioux] Indian tribe. The message was very simple! "Hang on to your culture and traditional ways. The 'white man' is on the way out and will eventually vacate the land that has been historically yours!!"]



Blogger Fabius Maximus said...

I dont' believe that California is at present an example of "people packing-up and vacating its country to a much weaker enemy".

1. I doubt there is substantial negative change in US citizen population of California due to net out-migration in exess of births/deaths.

2. I doubt much of the outmigration results from perception of an "enemy" or even impact of hispanic inflow. Cost of living vs. other regions is probably the major reason.

More generally, what we might be seeing in the SW US is one of the most common stories in history -- displacement of one group by another with higher fertility. History is largely a story of this process, far more common than military conquest.

8:46 PM


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