This is NEWS??!!

This is coolbert:

From the Chicago Tribune yesterday:

"Expert reveals origins of Gitmo tactics."

"Washington - - The military trainers who came to Guantanamo Bay in December 2002 based an entire interrogation class on a chart showing the effects of 'Coercive Management Techniques' for possible use on prisoners, including 'Sleep Deprivation,' 'Prolonged Constraint' and 'Exposure'."

"What the trainers did not say, and may not have known, was that their chart had been copied verbatim from a 1957 Air Force [U.S.] study of Chinese communist techniques used during the Korean War to obtain confessions, many of them false, from American prisoners."

"The 1957 article from which the chart was copied was titled 'Communist Attempts to Elicit False Confessions From the Air Force [U.S. ] Prisoners of War'"

As made public during:

"A Senate Armed services Committee hearing on June 17 that examined how such tactics came to be employed [at Gitmo on the unlawful combatants confined there] . . . a connection pointed out to the New York Times by an independent expert . . . who spoke on condition of anonymity."

It has long been pointed out that the various methods used in SERE training for U.S military personnel are almost identical to those having been used at Gitmo on the jihadi villains. NOT as severe, however, as even what American military personnel endure in training?

SERE training in all it's manifestations is a creation of the U.S. Air Force [USAF]. Captured USAF pilots were most likely to be put through an exhaustive regimen of coercive techniques by a brutal and cruel enemy that has captured them?

"It was created [originally] by the Air Force [U.S.] at the end of the Korean War but was expanded to the Army and the Navy during the Vietnam War. The majority of students are aircrew members."

These use of "coercive techniques?" is of course not confined merely to the U.S. military. The communists in various wars, French in Algeria, British in Northern Ireland, and the Germans in World War Two [WW2] used the "methods".

[and used by police forces too. The infamous Chicago police commander Burge was familiar with "coercive methods" and did employ? Restraints and confined position, the typewriter cover over the head, etc.]

The U.S. Senate is ONLY NOW coming to grips where these "techniques and methods" have come from?

My intuitive reaction to hearing about Gitmo and Abu Ghraib is that Israeli interrogators were perhaps on the scene advising or giving recommendations. Having an intimate understanding of what works on the Islamic mind-set [fear and loathing of dogs, fear of sexual humiliation] is a speciality of the Israeli? I would have to think so!!

coolbert.