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Sunday, August 28, 2005

Collaboration?

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More ruminations on the terrible fate of the Chetniks. Brave fighters against the Nazi army betrayed to the communists by treachery.

One accusation that has been leveled against Mihailovitch is that he was a collaborator. A collaborator with the Germans against his own people. This LIE is based in part upon a meeting that DID occur between Mihailovitch and the Germans. BUT not a meeting that could deemed as collaboration.

"The Communists have made much of the fact that on November 11, 1941, Mihailovic and three of his colleagues met with a German delegation headed by Lt. Col. Kogard, in the town of Divci. According to the Communists, this was the beginning of Mihailovic's collaboration with the Germans."

Mihailovitch DID meet with the Germans. But:

"Fortunately, there exists in German war records a stenographic account of this meeting, according to which Mihailovic told Kogard: "I am neither a communist nor do I work for you. But I have attempted to alleviate and hinder your terror...[the communists] wish to see the greatest possible number of Serbs killed in order to ensure their own later success. No agreement can be made with them. My only purpose [in dealing with them] was to temper their terror, which is as terrible as the German terror. At this moment, innocents are suffering from the terrorist acts of both of you. ... As a soldier, I am not ashamed to be a nationalist. In this capacity I will serve only my people...It is our duty as soldiers not to surrender as long as we can fight. Therefore, you cannot reproach us for not surrendering...I intend to continue the fight against the Communists which began on October 31...we need ammunition. This need brought me here...the Communists have an ammunition factory and ammunition dumps in Uzice. I ask you in the interest of the Serbian people, as well as in your own interest, to supply me , if possible, with ammunition this very night...Otherwise, if I am not given any ammunition, the communists will again obtain sway over Serbia."



To this, Kogard replied that his only instructions were to ask Mihailovic if he was ready to capitulate unconditionally. Obviously disappointed by Kogard's reply, Mihailovic said,"I do not see any sense in your invitation to come to the meeting if this is all you had to say."

Mihailovitch DID meet with the Germans, the Germans insisting upon unconditional surrender. Mihailovitch was not going to surrender, and the meeting ended, and that was that.

Is this collaboration? I think NOT. NO reasonable person would ever consider this to be collaboration. The communists have made a lot of this meeting, and it is a NOTHING!!

Furthermore:

"Intercepts did indeed exist, proving the existence of temporary regional understandings between the Germans and the border areas where Partisan and Mihailovic forces confronted each other. (In Serbia proper, where Mihailovic strength was overwhelming, and where the home army did not have to fight a war of survival against the unrelenting attacks of Partisan armies, accommodations with the Germans were a minor rarity.) But it is impossible to establish the relative significance of these intercepts without at the same time considering the unequivocal statements repeatedly made by Hitler and his senior staff officers."

Presumably these are intercepts of Enigma traffic. Secret communications of the Germans that demonstrates the LACK of collaboration between the Germans and the Chetniks. These intercepts carry GREAT value.

And as to WHO ARE the collaborators with the Germans in Yugoslavia during WW2:

"In March 1943, Tito sent to the HQ of the German commander in Chief at Sarajevo a delegation consisting of Milovan Djilas, General Koca Popovic, and Dr. Vladimir Velebit, three of the top leaders of the Tito movement. The ostensible purpose of the meeting was to arrange for a prisoner exchange. The three Partisan leaders were subsequently flown by a special German military plane to Zagreb, where the discussions were continued. Walter Roberts, who discovered this interesting documentation in German Military archives, summarized as follows: "The Partisan delegation stressed that the Partisans saw no reason for fighting the German army-they added that they fought against the Germans only in self defense- but wished solely to fight the Cetniks...That they would fight the British should the latter land in Yugoslavia...inasmuch as they wanted to concentrate on fighting the Cetniks, they wished to suggest respective territories of interest."

From this we can see that Tito was more interested in wresting power from the Chetniks and having a communist government installed in power at the end of the war. Tito WAS NOT interested in fighting the Germans as much as he wanted to destroy possible opponents in a post-war Yugoslavia. Even to the point of fighting the British, should the British land in Yugoslavia!!

Let the reader decide, who the real collaborator in Yugoslavia was!!

coolbert.

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