Painful?

This is coolbert:

The subject again is torture, purported or otherwise.

I am sitting in the doctor's office this morning.

Waiting for an appointment.

And am perusing a recent copy of Newsweek. And the cover story is torture. With the picture of Senator Mc Cain on the cover.

Senator Mc Cain.

A man who was brutally and pitilessly tortured by the North Vietnamese. If anyone has views on the subject that should be listened to, it is this man.

I instantly hit upon some interesting points contained within the article.

First, the topic of the Geneva Convention and how it applies to torture is hit upon again and again. NO cruel and degrading treatment of prisoners is allowed, according to the Convention. This of course applies to PRISONERS OF WAR [POW].

And there is the rub, right off the bat, is it not?? Are the Al Qaeda terrorists, suspected or otherwise, when captured, entitled to POW treatment??

The consensus opinion PRIOR to this moment is NO! They are not POW's as the term has been and is now ordinarily and commonly understood. I have discussed this at length many times before.

Secondly, some additional details are given as to how one unlawful enemy combatant being held at Gitmo was "tortured".

Given "degrading" treatment in an effort to break his will. This too has been previously gone over in another blog entry. IN that entry, I mentioned that the female interrogator RUBBED HER BREASTS AGAINST THE unlawful enemy combatant. This was deemed to be "torture" in a very broad definition of the word. A ridiculously broad definition of the word.

Besides the breast rubbing, this combatant was also subjected to having a woman [probably that same interrogator??] straddle him as he lay on the ground, being required to wear a bra and dance with men. This too is deemed as "torture"!!??

PLEASE!!!

Thirdly, it was mentioned in the article that new regulations and methods are being approved for inclusion into the Army manual for interrogators.

What techniques are permissible for interrogators to USE!!??

An interrogator MAY speak in A LOUD VOICE to the captured unlawful enemy combatant.

The interrogator MAY throw AN OBJECT around the room to scare the captured unlawful enemy combatant. [please note, the interrogator CAN throw the object, but NOT AT the prisoner!!??]

Grrrrr!!!!!

[I fear we are approaching a point where EVEN TO INTERROGATE A PRISONER ITSELF WILL BE DEEMED TORTURE [just to ask questions without PERMISSION WILL BE CONSIDERED COERCION]. THE SINGLE BEST SOURCE OF INTELLIGENCE IN THIS TYPE OF CONFLICT WILL BE ELIMINATED.]

Now, I am quite certain that members of Al Qaeda, when reading this article, WILL NOT believe what they are reading. When THEY think of torture, they are thinking of nail pulling, tooth pulling, crushing of the private parts, etc. That someone is concerned about talking in a loud voice to them and "scaring" them would be considered to be ludicrous and ridiculous in the extreme.

No, the members of Al Qaeda, reading this article, would think that something else is going on here. This is some sort of trick. What is mentioned cannot be for real. IT is a joke to think this is for real. Something is afoot here that just cannot be fathomed. What is that something??

That will be the reaction of Al Qaeda.

And the comment was made in Newsweek that many are concerned about HOW AMERICANS CAPTURED BY AL QAEDA WILL BE TREATED!!

Well, we already know the answer to that.

They will be tortured severely and executed, that is what. It has ALREADY HAPPENED!!

Again, the Al Qaeda combatants have made the cold-blooded decision well in advance on how to treat our troops. And it will not be nice [this decision has nothing to do with Gitmo, Abu Ghraib, etc. It does have to do with the jihadi perception of us Americans as being no better than maggots, to be destroyed. Nothing more than that!!].

As for Senator Mc Cain.

Senator Mc Cain is a man that really knows what torture is. When his plane was shot down over North Vietnam, Mc Cain suffered multiple breakages of bones from ejection. Wounds that were NOT treated by his captors. The NORTH VIETNAMESE, IN A WILLFUL AND SPITEFUL MANNER, REFUSED TO TREAT HIS WOUNDS!! 

Further, when the communists determined the identity of Mc Cain and found out that his father was CINCPAC, Mc Cain was even more brutally tortured, pain being inflicted upon the same breakages that occurred from ejection. Mc Cain emerged from Hanoi a cripple. What MC CAIN WENT THROUGH INVOLVED AND TO THIS DAY INVOLVES A LOT OF PAIN!!!

[Mc Cain does concedes that in the case of a "ticking bomb" scenario involving a nuclear weapon, physical force may be permissible!!!]

When folks talk about torture, they are talking about what Senator Mc Cain went through!!

coolbert.